@libremax said: The printing system is not included in the Ubuntu Touch images due to a lack of space for the root filesystem on many device models.
Work is currently underway to be able to increase the size of the rootfs.
Is there a way to determine if my device (Nord N10 5G) might have enough space for larger root filesystem ?
@developerbayman My interest is because it appears you are working on native apps, and specifically maybe solving 'printing problem'..
I run Linux Mint on most PC's, & windows only rarely & where I have no choice (Software for Curtis brand motor controller parameter setting app only available on Windows - maybe use it once a year to set up / change a controller, or other similar rare things).
I would prefer a phone that runs Linux, and runs native apps - specifically office type apps on UT phone & external display. [ was ABLE to install a native office suite on my UT phone, & (using wireless external display) it worked enough to create a file.]
I frequently print things from Linux Mint (I am 'oldschool', and worked a few years at Xerox, on laser printers, starting about 42 years ago, so I 'expect' to be able to print from any system that is 'office').
I was NOT able to print from Office suite on UT.
So, this issue feels like failure.
You have posted that you are working on Office app & printing app - this 'workspace'.
Have you tried to print from UT using your app ?
@developerbayman I was asking status.
Maybe list a few things that work, or are coded, but don't work.
You don't have to post it.
If it is 90% not working, then what is the point ?
But maybe, at 50%, there are usable portions ?
I understand the ADHD thing - lots of partial projects myself.
The critical ones get done.
So, maybe you focus on whatever you feel is highest benefit to you ?
Or take a poll, and work on what most people say they would benefit most from ?
@developerbayman When you say you only ran it on your desktop - you mean installed and did some testing ? SO, is there a UT version in progress ? If so, what is status of that ? IF you had just the printing functions implemented, maybe I could test that with Office package (your or others) using external display. Do I understand your effort correctly ?
@developerbayman So.... the images you posted: from the PC version, or UT version - on a phone - OR, UT version as seen on external display (desktop convergence) ?
If you have a native UT version that might scale correctly to an external display, I would help you test it.
@developerbayman So... where are you in the process ? initial thoughts ? working word processor ? you mentioned testing, which implies you have something WORKING which needs testing ?
@sixwheeledbeast I think anything to save battery is good, especially for phones without inductive charging. Nord N10 lacks inductive, and constant recharging wears the port & battery. Works against keeping device a long time.
@Ehartwork
Due to lack of time, I asked Google. So, hopefully someone here will correct any errors:
Answer was: VoLTE & WiFi calling share some underlying code.
But VoLTE code more on modem & WiFi calling in OS.
Also, Halium 11, or newer . Better support with that (11) for WiFi Calling. (Nord N10 only on halium10).
I suggested (different thread) that WiFi Calling get added to all device pages, to make the distinction that VoLTE works on some devices, but WiFi calling does NOT, at present, on most UT devices. This would help prospective UT users decide on device.
Google also said that some developers said FP5 WiFi calling works sometimes, and this was due to different -newer- modem & firmware than most other phones.
I bought Nord N10 months ago, under same bad assumption: VoLTE (YES) & WiFi calling (NO) work. Wasted huge money & time. Had to buy active cell signal booster. (more $ than I paid for the phone).
BTW: No native RCS. (Just in case you expected that feature). Not listed, as far as I could tell, on devices pages.
@developerbayman Check DRAM $$ lately ? What percent of your $500 budget is reserved for DRAM. Look up how much you can afford. I imagine you want a better phone (LCD wise, etc) than pine phone pro. It was over $400 ...
@Futura Thank you for that (Murena comment).
I recently researched this via Google & reply said 'Fairphone North American support via Murena'.
Sadly, you discovered NOT the case !
It is too bad that details like this don't yet have a place on the devices pages.
It is one thing if you have an old phone, and want to try UT. Maybe you already got years of use.
But to spend new money, and then have this problem, & no forewarning about lack of support in various countries, is just depressing !
Thank you for your report on this.
@developerbayman Have you looked at power consumption on X86 versus arm chips ?
I have merged your two topics since they are about the same situation.
Thank You.
I did not mean to post twice.
I did the first, and the website gave me an error. So, I gave up.
Then read other new posts. Also thought, maybe wait a bit. Did not see my first post, so I tried again.
No error.
So, I thought only the second post went through.
Is there a way to delete one ?
On Nord N10, 24.04-1.n daily, what is best way to jump back a week or so ?
Zero cell signal most of the time after update, & no voice calls even when a few bars pop up (they go away).
I thought it worked better last week, so I want to go back about 7 days.
Suggestions ?
@developerbayman Is this running on a PC with a touchscreen, or are you using a mouse ?
@projectmoon - Hmmm. Thank you, I had forgotten that. My memory of this is vague, or, I might have ruled it out due to being on MVNO, and/or the large carriers might offer the service when you are paying high dollars (unlimited data).
I will revisit that.
Interesting that Google never suggested that in my recent searches for solutions. I must have phrased the queries poorly.
I searched for a recent (last 24 hours or so) comment I saw about a problem with 24.04-2.n - by vverve in the thread: Oneplus n10 24.04-2.x follow up.
Vverve stated had to drop back from 204.04-2.n (version 182 ?) to 24.04-1.n due to serious problem.
Maybe related ?
I am on 'daily' 24.04-1.n. I have noticed an issue where I check updates, after a week, and sometimes it shows none (when I know there should be at least 1). Touching the 'retry' shows the circular thing, wait, and still none. POPO or reboot, then try again & update available !
So, never give up ...
I have not yet tried 24.04-2.n because I sporadically see concerning forum posts (including another thread in past 2 days).
I found a temporary solution (passive antenna hardware under $100).
Limited to 1 very specific location (semi-moveable), but it solves the main problem: ZERO cell signal in rural basement office/workshop.
So, it might enable me to really start to use UT:
I installed a directional outdoor cellular antenna ($30 ebay) on a pole outside, aimed it generally toward a cell tower (based on map search), connected 50 ft (17meter) of cable (single piece of coax), then indoor antenna ($12).
No amplifier.
Indoor antenna is mounted horizontally on a plastic base a few inches (75mm) above office desk (formica surface, on sheet metal frame), and set cell phone (Nord N10) on top.
Phone now has enough 'bars' (3 or 4) to use voice calling and exchange SMS.
Location is open workshop / office, so I should be able to hear ringing and most notifications.
Preliminary testing, but initial results are encouraging.
Only issue is, has to stay VERY close to antenna (and orientation probably matters. Not tested yet).
I mention this solution because a no-amplifier system might work for others, and is fairly cost effective.
I might still order a used amplifier, which would enable moving phone away from the antenna (to anywhere in room).
For the failed to power off while holding power key a long time:
did you try combo of: holding volume up key and power key for a while ?
I think that is what I did after my N10 would not power off