@Lakotaubp Thank you for your support for the Pinephone Keyboard. Unfortunately I lack of support to fight for the Pinephone Keyboard in the Pine64 forum. So I invite you the help me to fight that is comes back. I invested a lot of time in Office solutions for the Pinephone. These basically only make sense with the Pinephone Keyboard.

@nontrivial

I had a Pinephone keyboard with Ubuntu Touch. Then I bough the Pinpephone keyboard, but it did not work with Ubuntu Touch. Ubuntu Touch was not on the list of the supported distros in the Pinephone keyboard offer in the Pine64 shop. So I had to flash postmarketOS on it. This was some time ago.

But I thought the keyboard should work now right out of the box with Ubuntu Touch?

Lakotaubp wrote 28 days ago @Peter-Gamma

«The keyboard works with the PPP and as far as I know should work with the PP. «

https://forums.ubports.com/topic/8067/pinephone-keyboard-experiences/10?_=1718704203016

Such a pity that the Pinephone keyboard is not available anymore. Please write in the Pine64 forum to bring it back!

https://forum.pine64.org/showthread.php?tid=19329

@arubislander

Alaraajavamma from the Pine64 forum uses Abiword and Gnumeric on the Pinephone. And jackfish has installed box86/WINE with Word97 in the Pinephone:

.https://forum.pine64.org/showthread.php?tid=18489

He says LibreOffice has laggy typing on his Pinephone, but Word 97, once the program is up, it's as robust as anything on the PP. All its features function..

Jackfish is an experienced Word 97 user who used the Gemini PDA Personal digital assistant. Word 97 would eventually be the best office software for a 5,5 inch Pinephone screen. And also the Pinephone the best device for office application development.

But Pine64 has pulled the Pinephone keyboard from the market and leaves me and Jackfish completely frustrated. Also Jackfish wrote in the Pine64 forum, he bought the Pinephone only because of the Pinephone keyboard.

I tried Office on Android and it's not at all something that I can consider usable.

I used Softmaker Office for Android for many years and was completely happy with it. I did not write books with it. But the Office Softmaker app has all the functions of the desktop app.

After investigating many years Office solutions for Linux phones, I am currently going back to my Android phone with Softmaker Office. Softmaker Office offers all the functinality of the desktop software on the Android phone and is touchable. I am suprised that this app is not better known.

What i am happy about Android phones that my mini keyboard with trackpad I used for many years works at the first attempt today again.

What I am not happy about is that everytime i type somethine with Sofmaker Office new windows open which I cannot close easily.

And what I am not happy about is that I now need to use a NextCloudPi server if I want to use my office files on my Android phones and on my PC and don't want those data in the cloud.

I was unappy after Android 4.4, when it was not possible anymore to have office files on the external SD card for a data exchange to my PC.

I had the hope that Linux Phones could solve this problem. But it seems to me personally that NextCloudPi and my Android phone with Softmaker Office is the easier solution than Office on a Linux phone.

@MrT10001, thank you for your answer.

I found very interesting information about the Google Pixel 3/3a security:

“A Pixel 3 with an unsupported version of GrapheneOS on it is still the most secure OS on the market. “

https://www.reddit.com/r/GrapheneOS/comments/13bfnmu/looking_to_get_grapheneos_is_there_still_any_way/?utm_source=embedv2&utm_medium=post_embed&utm_content=post_title&embed_host_url=https://petergamma.org/blog/

@Peter-Gamma

• Keyboard and mouse work which is great

• as soon as these office apps I mentioned here are in the open store:

https://forums.ubports.com/topic/10240/is-there-a-decent-text-editor-for-ubuntu-touch-part-ii

I will replace:

• my Android phone and

• my Pinephone

• by a Pixel 3 with Ubuntu Touch for mobile office

• But only the Light P Word Processor in th OpenStore is too litte to make me change.

@Peter-Gamma yes

https://youtu.be/IMIwYaWgttM

@Frayedknot For me personally it is currently more a device which drives my crazy daily. I thought it could be my a daily driver. But it turned out to be not. Not as a privacy phone, to expensive in Switzerland. And not as a privacy phone for a writer. No Pinephone keyboard avaiable anymore .

• We had here a discussion about Bluetooth mice and the Pixel 3:

https://forums.ubports.com/topic/9946/bluetooth-mouse-connected-but-does-not-show-up-on-external-monitor/10?_=1720508915745

• But I want to use the Pixel 3 as my privacy phone and as privacy phone as a writer.

• And I am against wireless peripherals for privacy phones.

• There is a 7 inch usb keyboard available for the Pinephone incl. case if we built it ourselves:

https://petergamma.org/7-inch-usb-keyboard-available-for-the-pinephone/

• But do usb keyboards also work wth the Pixel 3 and Ubuntu Touch?

Part I:

https://forums.ubports.com/topic/8189/is-there-a-decent-text-editor-for-ubuntu-touch

• For Anna the problem is solved, but not for me personally. After I investigated about this topic for several years, I am still investigating.

• And that is office applications on Linux phones

• The situation has become better for the Pinephone, since I started as a physiologist to install LibreOffice on the Pinephone supported by the Pine64 forum

• It took me almost a month every day working a little bit on it, only ot find out about that LibreOffice is not usable on the Pinephone screen.

But we have now two years later after my installation effort for LibreOffice on the Pinephone the following result

• LibreOffice is in the postmarketOS app store

• Abiword is in the postmarketOS app store

• jackfish from the Pine64 forum has installed Word97 on his Pinephone in box86/WINE

• Word 97 is one of the greatest offic applications for the Pinephone

• It is a real desktop app which was widely used 27 years ago.

• But now the Pinphone keyboard is not available anymore. So why then still buy a Pinephone?

• And what is about Ubuntu Touch?:

• we have the Light P Word Processor in th OpenStore:

https://open-store.io/app/lightp.collaproductions

• should not im principle all the apps which run on the Pinphone also run on Ubuntu Touch?

• and should not in principle the office apps which are available for postmarketOS app store for the Pinphone also be in the OpenStore?

• And these are LibreOffice, Abiword, Gnumeric

• And would it not be highly desirable that also Word97 is availabe there?

Nice, that is good news for F-Droid enthousiasts and enthousiasts of open-source app stores serving similar function to the Google Play store which contains only free and open source apps.

@kugiigi Right.

I am not a product seller but a user who does not find a product which works. So a put a link to my personal website where users can find such products:

https://petergamma.org/you-fail-to-find-a-keyboard-mouse-with-works-with-the-pinephone-google-pixel-3-with-ubuntu-toch-we-invite-you-to-test-these-devices/

@kugiigi

The Orange Pi 5 is also known to have issues with Bluetooth peripheral.

One Orange Pi 5 user wrote in the armbian forum he was successful with a Logitec keyboard which has his own & 2.4G usb dongle:

https://forum.pine64.org/showthread.php?tid=19317

These peripherals with 2.4G usb dongle work eventually without drivers and are therefore worth testing.

@Keneda

I think/hope too, that when FP5 Ubuntu Touch is ready for users, there will be an announcement.

My phones:

• Xiami Redmi 7 & Softmaker Office & SCRPI & NextCloudPi for office applications

• Pinephone PMOS & PP keyboard only for evaluation purposes

• Raspberry Pi zero 2 w & Raspberry Pi OS & LibreOffice for evaluation & future developments (I plan to switch to DietPi)

• I currently hate all of my devices.

• FP5 Ubuntu Touch planned as a privacy phone & Raspberry Pi screen.

@arubislander If I work for almost month every day a little bit on installing LibreOffice on the Pinephone supported by the Pine64 forum. only to find out that LibreOffice it is not usable on the Pinephone screen.

And if I review for several years the Pinephone on my personal website especially for writers. And if I invest a lot of time and effort in this, and finally come to the conclusion that it is a good device for writers.

But exactly at that moment Pine64 pulls the Pinephone Keypboard from the market then I get:

 v e r y     p e  r  s o  n  a  l

and share my own personal experience with Pine64 . .

But what do you expect more from Lukasz Erecinski from Wrocław, Poland who is the boss of Pine64 EU? Erecinski who was Community Manager of Pine64 for 5 years? Once pine64 always pine64? And not even in Poland is the Pinephone keyboard available? Are these not fabricated there?

@Keneda

I agree. Completely insane prices!

And that just for cloning the Pine64 shop and importing products from U.S.?

If it was at least a EU shop with a mission, for instance to save the Pinephone keyboard for members of the EU.

But not the slightest sign of creativity in this direction in the Pine64 EU shop .

@sven

• I am extreme panik.

• Pine64 forum members say Pine64 EU can only sell what Pine64 USA sells.

• If that is true Pine64 EU is basically only someone who imports products from the US and charges for this.

• And Pine64 USA say they have pulled the Pinephone keyboard from the market.

• And the keyboard is out of stock in the Pine64 EU store.

• So Pine64 EU should make himself indpendent from Pin64 USA and launche the Pinephone keyboard by himself.

• It is a great keyboard for coders and writers.

• And I do not know an alternative exept for the iGo Stoaway which is too big for my purpose.

Thank you both for sharing your experience.

• I thing Ubuntu Touch is great to run on outdated devices.

• I think Ubuntu Touch is also great is you want a privacy phone and not an Android phone without privacy.

• but I am against Google phones.

• Did privacy phone expert Rob Braxman not say:

"dump Google phones and Apple phones".

So I will buy a Fairphone and flash Ubuntu Touch on it to have a privacy phone which is excellent