@kugiigi said

I don't understand why they even care where you bought it. Unlocking bootloader factory resets the device right?
It's not like you're using it to access data from a stolen device..And you'll need access on the device to even allow unlocking

On my previous phone purchases (6 google Pixels, to install 5 LineageOS & 1 UT), I was aware I needed to buy 'Factory Unlocked', and not originally sold by Verizon or AT&T, because they refused to unlock bootloaders.
My guess is that, at least partly, they realize that by installing 3rd party firmware, we extend the life of the device and put off buying new ones.
I read what I could find regarding Oneplus, and it looked as though, as long as carrier was unlocked (which implied phone paid off), then Oneplus would unlock bootloader (for T-mobile sold models).
I discovered that, at least in my case (BE2028), not always true.
[Since this failure, I searched info for other possible UT candidates, and read that Xiaomi is less helpful for unlocking lately].
I also discovered (sadly for this UT project) there are far more 'factory unlocked' Pixels available used than Nord N10's !

@developerbayman - seems like you shave many yaks at once <grin> Keep up the effort !

@idonthatevests
The N10 5G is 5G. The N100 is similar, but no 5G. Some people said they ordered N10 from somewhere, but got N100, so watch out for that. If in USA, search for BE2026. You might have trouble unlocking BE2028.

on Ebay, over 10 used N10's (some BE2026) have sold for under $100 in past 2 months. Some new-in-box BE2026 have recently sold for over $150.

@Moem Great suggestion.
Since I am newbie, I did not think of this.
Also, I thought maybe I am doing something wrong.
Thank You

I deleted it after reading that Libertine is on its way out & Snap now supported, so I installed the snap version & it works OK- wireless external display - 4K TV.
Also connected $10 (USD-Amazon) Acasis USB-C port expander to charge and plug in USB Keyboard & USB stick (with *.ods test file).

@developerbayman Have you looked at power consumption on X86 versus arm chips ?

@RapidRotator said

Anyway, I don't have a Miracast, but I can cast Jellyfin to my Panasonic TV with does 1080p with perfect quality from my N10.

I just looked up Jellyfin. Seems to be different from UT Miracast over WiFi.
Miracast is system built into many TV's since it launched in 2012.
From what I recently read, cell phone running UT talks directly to the TV via WiFi.
Limited though, 1080P max, even if you have a 4K TV. (Looks usable though).
I also read that since Google Chromecast came out, Google reduced Android support.
Also, I think no Miracast support on Google / Android Smart TV's (not positive of this).

@Yumi
installed UT 2 days ago on 1+ Nord N10 (BE2026). [Note VoLTE worked, but NOT WiFi calling].
UT mentions 'Desktop Convergence', so I tried to see if my phone could reproduce my Linux Mint LibreOffice 'desktop experience'.
Easy to connect to WIRELESS external display (limited to 1080P), as long as that display runs Miracast (my LG TV's do).
Then I connected Acasis multiport USB-C hub, with PD charging, a wired keyboard, wired mouse, Gigabit ethernet adapter and USB-A Flash drive.
I installed LibreOffice via snap. (direct, no libertine required).
I opened a spreadsheet that had been created on main PC.
not as quick as main PC, but workable.
Image on TV was a bit 'wavy', moving top to bottom, as it refreshed, or something. (maybe 2.4Ghz WiFi interference also)
A phone model with WIRED external display capability probably fixes the 'wavy'.
I did NOT exhaustively test this (meaning the usability for lengthy spreadsheet changes).
It was just to see if it would work.
If you have a specific thing to try, let me know. I might be able to give a quick test.

@developerbayman Check DRAM $$ lately ? What percent of your $500 budget is reserved for DRAM. Look up how much you can afford. I imagine you want a better phone (LCD wise, etc) than pine phone pro. It was over $400 ...

@ChromiumOS-Guy
Thank You. I might follow that up when I have a bit more time & energy.
I bought an easy-to-unlock BE2026 via Ebay, which arrived a couple days ago, and got UT installed.
I still have a BE2028 to try to unlock. Not worth a huge effort now, though.

@developerbayman Check DRAM $$ lately ? What percent of your $500 budget is reserved for DRAM. Look up how much you can afford. I imagine you want a better phone (LCD wise, etc) than pine phone pro. It was over $400 ...

@Futura Thank you for that (Murena comment).
I recently researched this via Google & reply said 'Fairphone North American support via Murena'.
Sadly, you discovered NOT the case !
It is too bad that details like this don't yet have a place on the devices pages.
It is one thing if you have an old phone, and want to try UT. Maybe you already got years of use.
But to spend new money, and then have this problem, & no forewarning about lack of support in various countries, is just depressing !
Thank you for your report on this.

@developerbayman Have you looked at power consumption on X86 versus arm chips ?

@arubislander said:

I have merged your two topics since they are about the same situation.

Thank You.
I did not mean to post twice.
I did the first, and the website gave me an error. So, I gave up.
Then read other new posts. Also thought, maybe wait a bit. Did not see my first post, so I tried again.
No error.
So, I thought only the second post went through.
Is there a way to delete one ?

On Nord N10, 24.04-1.n daily, what is best way to jump back a week or so ?

Zero cell signal most of the time after update, & no voice calls even when a few bars pop up (they go away).

I thought it worked better last week, so I want to go back about 7 days.

Suggestions ?

@developerbayman Is this running on a PC with a touchscreen, or are you using a mouse ?

@projectmoon - Hmmm. Thank you, I had forgotten that. My memory of this is vague, or, I might have ruled it out due to being on MVNO, and/or the large carriers might offer the service when you are paying high dollars (unlimited data).
I will revisit that.
Interesting that Google never suggested that in my recent searches for solutions. I must have phrased the queries poorly.

@lsitongia

I searched for a recent (last 24 hours or so) comment I saw about a problem with 24.04-2.n - by vverve in the thread: Oneplus n10 24.04-2.x follow up.
Vverve stated had to drop back from 204.04-2.n (version 182 ?) to 24.04-1.n due to serious problem.
Maybe related ?

@lsitongia

I am on 'daily' 24.04-1.n. I have noticed an issue where I check updates, after a week, and sometimes it shows none (when I know there should be at least 1). Touching the 'retry' shows the circular thing, wait, and still none. POPO or reboot, then try again & update available !
So, never give up ...

I have not yet tried 24.04-2.n because I sporadically see concerning forum posts (including another thread in past 2 days).

I found a temporary solution (passive antenna hardware under $100).
Limited to 1 very specific location (semi-moveable), but it solves the main problem: ZERO cell signal in rural basement office/workshop.
So, it might enable me to really start to use UT:

I installed a directional outdoor cellular antenna ($30 ebay) on a pole outside, aimed it generally toward a cell tower (based on map search), connected 50 ft (17meter) of cable (single piece of coax), then indoor antenna ($12).
No amplifier.
Indoor antenna is mounted horizontally on a plastic base a few inches (75mm) above office desk (formica surface, on sheet metal frame), and set cell phone (Nord N10) on top.
Phone now has enough 'bars' (3 or 4) to use voice calling and exchange SMS.
Location is open workshop / office, so I should be able to hear ringing and most notifications.
Preliminary testing, but initial results are encouraging.
Only issue is, has to stay VERY close to antenna (and orientation probably matters. Not tested yet).
I mention this solution because a no-amplifier system might work for others, and is fairly cost effective.

I might still order a used amplifier, which would enable moving phone away from the antenna (to anywhere in room).