@fair Which phone is this?
This is usually an issue with media playback that doesn't use media hub such as webapps. I guess Waydroid has the same problem, when you lock the device, apps get suspended. Interesting that Waydroid is also affected considering that it doesn't really suspend. I assume your phone has proper deep sleep so apps don't just suspend, the device goes into low power mode that processes like Waydroid can't function properly anymore.

This is definitely something that UT needs - polish. This is awesome and hopefully this becomes a successful initiative

On top of my head, these are the things that I think matters for most people.

• Display cutout and rounded corners handling. Most phones now have them and it just makes UT look unfinished and unpolished and of course annoying for the users
• AGPS. Without it, navigation is really hard to rely on. It may work quick especially if you use it often but it's still highly unreliable.
• Cloud syncing for contacts, notes, etc. Ideally, an easy to use backup/restore solution as well.
• Video playback. I think one of the weakest part of UT since the beginning is video playback. It never worked well. It has minor issues like video flipping at the end of playback then some major issues like actually crashing the app, for example on Teleports. There are also devices where it totally stop working until you restart media hub or rebooting the device. The experience is just bad in general in my opinion
• Small back button in apps and hard to reach in one hand use. Especially if you come from Android, I think you can really be annoyed by this and more especially if you are someone who frequently use your phone with one hand. This has been discussed dozens of times but it's a tricky thing to solve. I think adding a universal back action like Android is out of the question but what else can we do? I have some solutions on my apps and in Ambot Installer calles MariKit. It adds horizontal swipe at the bottom edge which can used to trigger back action or other header actions. It's very useful in my opinion but I'm still unsure if this is the best solution and approach.

@bekun Yeah that's the ideal functionality. On Android, that works fine, at least on Samsung phones. In UT, all touchscreens are mapped to the built-in display.

I was talking about on the desktops. Gnome have the same issue while KDE Plasma handles it fine.

Unfortunately, UT doesn't yet support correctly mapping a second touchscreen display. I already asked this to the Mir developers and they still don't support it in recent versions, at least during that time which was a year or months ago.

I actually discovered that even Gnome has this issue. I only got KDE Plasma to work properly woth 2 touchscreen displays

6GB will be fine but obviously 8GB would be better if you want to open many apps simultaneously.

But since you mentioned using Waydroid extensively, then I would recommend the 8GB. I've used 6GB and 8GB variants of the FP4 and Waydroid can be slow on the 6GB variant when you have other heavy apps open like a browses or a webapps. Remember, you're running another OS which would use more memory.

@pparent I don't know exactly how you use the value for scaling but here is what I use in my app for things that I want to be based on physical measurement instead of being affected by scaling i.e. gestures

https://gitlab.com/kugiigi1/sapot-browser/-/blob/ubports/xenial/src/app/webbrowser/morph-browser.cpp#L105

@gpatel-fr There's a known bug with the FP5's detected screen size. This is why Morph and webapps loads desktop version of sites. If I remember correctly, the porter said that it's an issue with the firmware itself or kinda Fairphone's fault. I think he has a solution but he needs to find a general solution that won't affect other devices.

@pparent I'm curious what exactly you are using because on my apps using Screen.pixelDensity works fine except as I mentioned above, the FP5. I don't have Volla phones though so not sure there

No it won't. I don't think Dolby formats even work on Linux desktops.
What does it do anyway? I still don't understand the Dolby Atmos feature on that tablet

Can't you get the density somewhere else? For example in QML, you use Screen.

There are attempts and even got it running but nothing's really good enough for actual use. This is tricky because they are very expensive and niche so there's a small chance it'll be a thing soon. Well unless someone very willing and skilled to do it

I would love UT on a foldable. There's not much good tablet options so a foldable would be awesome and a great showcase of convergence but I wouldn't hold my breath

I think for fast typers UT's keyboard definitely would feel slower and I guess it also depends on the device and port. There are optimizations and improvements that can be done.
At the moment, autocorrect isn't recommended because it kinda suck You can still use word suggestions though which can be helpful.

@RJDan Oh okay. I guess you're on Noble and only the Essentials version is available for now The full version is available from the repo but it will be released in Ambot soon

It's recommended to install the correct Android version before flashing UT. This is to avoid unexpected issues.

In my experience on both FP4 and FP5, fingerprint reader may not work initially so you'll have to reinstall Android and reflash UT.

@RJDan You mean in Lomiri Plus?
It's under Convergence > External Display.
The settings can be accessed via the Power/System Indicator Panel.

@RJDan Interesting. I guess if the hardware supports this then it could work in UT. I wonder if Android phones could do this.

In UT however, single monitor might be the default behavior on phones and tablets. In Lomiri Plus via Ambot Installer, there's an option to use multi-display mode if you really want to try. I don't know if it'll work though and how well it'll work. The device screen will be a normal screen In this mode by the way, it won't be a touchpad.

@Alain This featute isn't in UT/Lomiri yet. Simplest way is to make something like a home screen app and there are some that exists already like Launcher Modular. Not sure they have app groups though. You can contribute to them if you don't want to make your own. However, they obviously act like a normal app. Best you can do is pin it to the Launcher for easy access.

Or you can contribute to Lomiri and implement it in the App drawer which definitely needs some love
There's even a bounty for it so there's money to get

@gpatel-fr That won't help in my case. My issue is that I'm used to flicking quickly when switching between two apps and that doesn't work well on the FP5

Unfortunately, this is not yet possible. Something like this was developed by Canonical but it wasn't finished so it was removed. So far now one has implemented it yet although there's a bounty for it now.

@fair FP4 actually has the one of the most responsive edge gestures in my expert. FP5 on the other hand is less responsive because it seems like it has an accidental touch algorithm that rejects quick short swipe from the edges. While on FP4, your swipe reacts to your swipe almost instantaneously. I wonder why you have a hard time. Perhaps you use a case which might make ot harder to reach the very edge or maybe the phone is just to big for one hand use?

In any case, I think a floating button isn't a bad idea for an accessibility feature. However, there are things you listed that might not be possible or at least not easily. For example, showing the keyboard cannot be a toggle because the onscreen keyboard shows up based on context such as a texbox being in focus. I guess there might be a workaround like utilizing the logic for hiding the keyboard when there's a physical keyboard connected.

Another thing is that back action concept doesn't exists in UT or in Linux systems in general. So I doubt you can have something that would work for everything. Even Plasma Mobile which mimics Android's bottom navigation bar doesn't have a back button. This one might be the trickiest thing to solve.

So in summary, it's possible to do it for some functions like opening the app drawer or app spread/switcher but other things wouldn't be simple.

If you're interested, you can try some of my hacks that makes UT easier to use one hand. Ambot Installer is available on OpenStore and you can use it to install my hacks. It's already available on Noble however my biggest hack called Lomiri Plus isn't available yet, at least via Ambot.

The hacks I have are mostly gestures though so you might not like it too
For example, you swipe down on the edges to pull down the whole shell so you can reach UI elements at the top. You can also do horizontal swipes at the bottom edge in apps to trigger the back button or even any if the page header actions. I also have what I call Quick Actions which can triggered via a swipe from the bottom of the left or right edge. Here you can have actions similar to what you mentioned and you can also add apps there.

This is awesome! Can't wait for the future of Lomiri