The main thing here is that Ubuntu Touch doesn't have the latest and greatest support for Wayland/XWayland. This is needed so you can run traditional desktop apps. It will come in the future and there are already works on it on the desktop side of things.
However, even with that, we can't expect for these desktop apps to magically work well on small screens with touch input.
As mentioned, uWolf is in the OpenStore which is Librewolf but made to work better on phones. It still has some quirks though, caused by the same thing I mentioned earlier. It has no clipboard support and the performance isn't as good as the native browser.

@Charly On Noble, snaps is preinstalled so you just run snap commands like snap install <app name>

You can also try Crackle which uses Nix.

@_JCM_ Sadly this is an issue even on focal. It also happens on other devices although I notice that it is more frequent on my FP5 than my other devices like FP4.

@Opolork Highly depends on the people willing to do the work. I don't think Fairphone has direct influence on the port. FP5 took quite a time compared to the FP4 so I wouldn't expect anything faster or better especially since FP6 has no display out which might deter some people to work on it.

Hopefully, I'm wrong though and we get it soon although personally I wouldn't be getting it

@Charly There was an app before but I don't think it's available on focal. Also, it might only work on select devices like the bq device.

@Opolork I don't think they have the hardware for that. I might be wrong though.

@Opolork I think the main concern about UT support is the last kernel version that the device has. For example, the older devices like Nexus 5 and bq E5 are not supported anymore because Ubuntu 20.04 has features or functionalities that need things from a newer kernel version that those devices don't have. Technically it is still possible to do but it'll take effort from someone and that someone doesn't exists

There could be other things that might matter in terms of support so it basically depends on how much effort is needed to stay supported and if there's someone willing to do the work

Hopefully, we will still get the separate announcement/post about the long wait after the upgrade so that less people will be confused

Someone actually has a weird discovery. You can copy paste between Waydroid and Mimi browser. You can't even do it anymore inside Waydroid since A13
No one knows yet why that is the case.
It won't help with accessing clipboard from and to Waydroid though since Mimi browser also can't access system clipboard but perhaps something to look at

@UBportsNews Awesome!
May I also suggest to have a separate communication about the long boot up time after the upgrade? Not everyone will read the blog and it's also a at the middle or end of the blog which lesser people will read.
I think this important so that people will know what to expect and they won't be confused or worse do something that could actually break their device, if that's possible.

@shano Because Wayland is relatively new compared to X, which is a better comparison to Compiz although they're still not exactly 1 to 1.

As for Lomiri, it was developed from the ground up. Most of its major components were new. Unity 7 on the other hand was built over GTK/Gnome as far as I know. Also, it was dropped by Canonical on 2017 and picked up by UBports who's a very small community/foundation with a lot less money than Canonical.

Also, your question is a bit weird since it's expected that an older tech has more features and better developed than new ones since they have more years to develop. I mean what do you expect?

@arubislander That is true but for some reason many really used that term to refer to storage This is very common at least years ago, I think they now use "storage" most of the time though.

@arubislander To be fair, mistakes or wrong things are common in mockups even in legit devices, even Canonical is guilty of showing things that isn't correct or hasn't been implemented yet
Also ROM is pretty common for referring to storage especially with Android devices.

I wonder if the foundation is aware of this device. I'd say this has a higher chance of being legit than the UbuTab with 1TB of HDD

@arubislander To be fair, the repo's readme literally lists a few clickable commands. I never got them to work but probably they did work before. Still haven't figure out how to build Lomiri LOL
I think the recommended tool to use is crossbuilder (https://github.com/ubports/crossbuilder) though I think I also encountered some issues with that.

@shano Are you building Lomiri with clickable?
But yes, Focal is still Qt5.12 and Noble is Qt5.15.

libubuntu-app-launch might be called liblomiri-app-launch now on Noble, or something like that

@MrRoughwood Yeah, keep on checking different settings. I've done the same when I was trying to figure out my battery drain issue. It needs an overnight test so it takes a long time

@MrRoughwood That is not normal. I have a battery drain issue on my FP4 as well but it's because of my sim card, for some reason this happens and I have yet to find out exactly why. But without it, overnight usually just drains around 3-10% and that's with Wifi turned on.

May I know if you're on Focal or Noble? Because I'm also seeing a big battery drain on my FP4 with Noble.

Something more technical, thr FP4 actually has a bug where it doesn't actually go to deep sleep. Bur despite that, it has one of the UT devices with good battery. But because of this, if you have things running in the background, it might affect the battery a lot more. Have you installed anything lately? Dekko and UBsync for example have background processes. I have those on my FP4 Focal too though and they don't generally cause huge battery drain.

Using Syncthing might be the most private solution. Using Telegram's saved messages is the least private but easiest. You could perhaps find trustworthy free Nextcloud accounts and use Jotit which I guess a middle compromise in terms of privacy and ease.

Oh I got too excited. I thought this is a click version and also I was hoping file transfer is part of thise that work since it's my main use of it
But in any case, nice work on this. Hopefully, it'll result into something that anyone can use

@Zardozor25 Are you sure you're in fastboot mode? ADB is different from fastboot.