@uwahl I understand your concern but that is sadly not related to my post I'm talking about the virtual touchpad when connected to an external display.

Have you tried reinstalling the official images from Fairphone?
Note that you should install the Android 13 version.

@oldbutndy Just to set the expectation. Do not expect much from the external display experience. At the moment, it's kind of regressed compared to xenial and older versions. It has been better now in Noble but it's still have lingering issues and the most notable and experience breaking one is mouse scrolling. It doesn't work properly in the browser (only one tab or webview works) and scrolling in native apps is too "momentum"-ish
In any case, it's still fun to use from time to time. In fact, I'm using it right now to test some things

First and foremost, no I'm not implementing proper touchpad support in Lomiri. Mainly because I don't know how
I initially thought QML has a module or component for it but turns out there's none. I guess touchpads aren't as standardized as mouse?

Anyway, I'm actually experimenting with the virtual touchpad instead since it'll be much easier for my skill level. However, I'm not exactly a touchpad user (on my Steam Controller yes LOL). I rarely use a laptop and when I do, I use an external mouse. So I don't really know what's expected from it especially the modern ones.

Here's a video showcasing the gestures I experimented with.
https://youtu.be/xDXpPVnWaGQ?si=8qxr1PWXGkqINH8N

Basically, I tried to mimic the current touchscreen gestures in Lomiri but not sure if they would actually be useful. I'm thinking, it's nice to move and resize windows with a gesture but it might be better to be able to quickly open the drawer or switch between apps using the 3-finger gestures instead.

Unlike most of my experiments, I'm confident that I can actually propose this to upstream Lomiri since it doesn't really need skills that I don't have. So I would like to ask for people's opinion on this and maybe this would be basis once proper touchpad support were implemented.

One last thing, you may suggest pinch to zoom and such and although that's cool, Samsung DeX has it, but I don't know how to implement that LOL
I'm talking more on simple swipe and taps that

Thanks!

I don't understand why they even care where you bought it. Unlocking bootloader factory resets the device right?
It's not like you're using it to access data from a stolen device..And you'll need access on the device to even allow unlocking

It really does seem to be a power issue. Do you have other phones that can output to a display? You can test that.

Am I right that you also use a portable monitor? Even with a separate power supply to it and the dock, the flicker still happens?

In my experience, sometimes the sequence of connecting the ports may change the behavior or docks and such. I didn't experience the same issue of flickering but I had some other strange behavior with my adapter when connecting the power cable. The same with my portable monitor. I need to connect my phone first then the power to the monitor so that touch would work, otherwise, only the display output works but not the external touch input.

@enki Which channel are you on when did you last update?

I honestly don't understand most of these thing. I don't know what NDK is
But may I know what's the advantage of this? Would it have better performance? Also, I assume this can only be used on Android devices and not mainline?

@mihael I guess this confirms that it is an issue with this device's port

@libremax Interesting. Not familiar with that distro but it seems to be also on Pinephone or Pine devices in general?

@mihael Report this issue to the device's port. That is not normal. Phone app should work almost instantaneously.

I don't remember the exact gsettings name. Perhaps you can look it up here in the forum. If you know how to read codes, you can check the repo of the tweak tool. If I am not mistaken, the value that should be added is lomiri-dialer-app. I assume it now suspends on Noble because it was dialer-app.

@mihael I don't understand why you'll need this but it's probably a bug in the tweak tool. Phone and Messaging seems to be gone from the list. Morph and system settings are still there despite being deb packages as well.
I'm sure you can manually add them to the gsettings for apps that don't suspend. I believe they were renamed to have lomiri- at the beginning of the app id.

@johndoe I agree. I don't think they need to be removed. I do wonder who used this feature though
Would be nice to add the more open platforms but again, who use this feature?

@wally Oh you are right. I thought T9 is what you call the old school way of typing on keypad phones
It is called multi-tap apparently which is kinda generic and boring LOL

@gpatel-fr These are all valid ideas and bugs. File them in the repo and maybe someone will look into them. I'm just not sure about one-handed use. At the moment, the standard design guidelines aren't really prioritizing that.
I personally want them too and that's why in my apps, I have one-handed features such as the copy of OneUI's pulling down a list view But that won't be accepted in core apps

As for the T9 typing, it is indeed not obvious. To be honest, not sure how to make it obvious. It is by the way not exactly T9 typing because it checks all the letters per number so you don't need to press them multiple times. It's actually cool

LOL This is funny. This is definitely a bug and most likely I'm the culprit since I redesigned it. Seems like the add to contact buttion can still be clicked even when hidden, same with the delete button since I also get a haptic feedback from it.
BTW, if you're old enough, you can actually search for a contact using T9 typing which is awesome

@djac The redesigned phone app is only available in Noble so this bug/feature is not there in focal

It was indeed interesting but it's most likely using Unity 7 and not Unity 8/Lomiri so I highly doubt it'll ever come back with Lomiri. I mean it would be nice but it's at the bottom of the priority list.
Also in general, TV is sadly plague with proprietary things so it'll almost impossible to penetrate the market. Unless you don't care about HDR, Dolby, and surround sound and such, you'll be stuck with SDR and sometimes 1080p on Linux.

I'm afraid if you don't like the swipe gestures then Ubuntu Touch isn't for you. It won't change most likely ever. Many people actually like it. Not everyone uses their phone with one hand and some people have big enough hands to still use big phones nowadays with one hand.

It's not perfect though. Obviously, it can be improved such as adding an option to interchange the left and right edge functions. For one hand use, having a better way to go back in apps would be great. There's a lot of discussion about that already but nothing has come out of it yet. I personally have an experimental horizontal swipe at the bottom which I think works well but still not sure how well it'll work as a standard in UT.

About the keyboard, not sure why your experience is like that. Lomiri, the system UI, supports keyboard navigation. It literally exists on desktop distros now and quite usable. Bluetooth can be wonky though so it's probably that.

It has to be enabled by the porter however, it might not work properly if it's an optical sensor because as far as I know, those are not yet supported due to the need of flashing the screen when scanning your finger.
On my S10, which has a deas port, it works fine but it's ultrasonic.

@GooglyBear Anything would be fine. HDMI input or type-c displaypprt input.

There's a ton of portable monitor nowadays. However, many of them don't have good firmwares For example, some have wonky handling of touch, charging and output when using a type-c cable.