@UniSuperBox Understood.

@rob said in What's Inside the Black Box of Ubuntu Touch?: The point of this exercise is to see if I can do normal Linux things on a UT device vs. let's say using PostmarketOS. This is a valid comparison and an often made one between the OS options. I think this is a poor distinction to make. Ubuntu Touch is not a traditional Linux distribution, so no, you cannot treat it like one. It is an OS designed with phone/tablet use in mind, and with security restraints to that effect. It's only a valid comparison for people who do not want a phone or tablet, but instead want something they can treat like a traditional Linux distro, in their pocket. And those are two very different things, for which making the comparison in such a manner, doesn't promote the benefits of such a system, and treats the traditional and less secure way as something inherently better. @rob said in What's Inside the Black Box of Ubuntu Touch?: Partly this ability to play with this stuff is why we're on Linux. Partly it's also because of privacy advantages. Android is still Linux. So far, the things you've talked about in terms of building and running an app directly on the phone, have absolutely nothing to do with whether there is a Linux kernel running on the device though. Linux is running on billions of devices in the wild. Simply because you can't ssh into those devices arbitrarily and do some traditional things you might be used to on Debian or Ubuntu on your PC, doesn't make those devices not be Linux. Android is the same. @rob said in What's Inside the Black Box of Ubuntu Touch?: In any case, I've concluded that Libertine isn't the answer but need more space on the host to do more experimentation. Hopefully the Pinephone will give that space. Libertine is the answer, as it is what provides a container for installing and running legacy apps. However, it doesn't magically make those apps responsive or usable on phones, nor does it enable a full traditional Linux distribution experience. Likewise, Pinephone is not an answer here, as it is not the only device that UT will be supporting. The rootfs contents (in terms of what is supported by UT) must remain consistent across devices, regardless of whether they use libhybris or not, and whether or not they are stuck with Android style partitioning. Doing anything different in this area across different devices will only make it harder to support, harder to build apps for UT, and harder for users to use UT. Those are all things we clearly do not want.

I'm using OP3 on T-mobile

Also reported (with a few inaccuracies, but close enough) by Phoronix.

That is a good question, it does some hackery to get the login tokens so maybe not the services api.

@Flohack Thank you so much for the work you have done for the project! Always take your time.

good advice from Stefano

https://github.com/ubports/utqemu

For what it's worth, @linuxadopter, I'm very happy with my Nexus5 running UT.

I would like to add my voice in support of what @dobey said. I appreciate that the solutions we suggest are 'what worked for us' when we were facing a similar issue. And we feel it is better to give advice that we know will work from our own experience, because we can answer any follow-up questions about that. But we should consider the potential risk of our proposed solution to leave the device in a state needing a reinstall of the OS to resolve any mistakes. Not only is that a bad experience for the user, it also gives the impression that the OS is much more fragile than it actually is. So please, when questions come up where the answer is installing additional command line utilities from the standard repo's. Let's point them to the Libertine documentation first. Libertine works brilliantly for commandline utilities and apps. It's the graphical applications that are more of a hit or miss.

Ah! I see. Thank you for the clarification, @Flohack

While I agree with those above that it is best to stay up to date, I also feel the OP should be aware that the two issues the OP mentions when using Ubuntu Touch will still be present in the lastest version. Bit that should not stop him from updating IMO.

Maybe a dead thread but Rhasspy has become a new popular choice.

thanks dobey. I will test it out when I get the chance.

@Giiba RAW is the format used by the sensor. It's not really A format type, just how the sensor handle the data ; it's proprietary to the sensor even if some de facto "standards" exist. So any camera supports RAW because this is how they work. The camera chip is also able to encode the picture or video to several formats. That's up to the driver and the app on top of it to ask for the desired format. In my experience every camera sensor I worked with worked the same, but my experience is not law, so maybe it can be different.

@chdslv Use the wipe option on the installer. It will remove everything though and give you a clean install.

Ubuntu Touch was an idea to provide the same basic experience and apps on both PCs and phones/tablets, which potentially could be a significant improvement in our experience with devices. But, going against the behemoth of those companies that engage in surveillance capitalism and only respect money (IE, have no respect for users), makes developing and putting forward such new and interesting innovations a huge challenge. Here's another video that is shorter. This one, rather than a speech, is a documentary with a more bullet-point style highlighting her main ideas. Recommended. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIXhnWUmMvw She describes how Google, then Facebook, and now a whack of others (including Ford Motor company) are moving away from trying to make compelling good products to sell to people, and instead are relying upon obtaining data about people to sell to business to better predict (and at times manipulate) buying patterns. It's largely done without our knowledge, and thus harms privacy rights. Further, because it is very lucrative, it takes away from the creation of decent new products, instead focusing a large amount of resources on obtaining data about users. Ford Motor Companies, for instance, could be working on developing a decent zero emission car. But instead, they are focusing on surveillance of and collection of data from their users, to then sell to other businesses. This trend is harmful to society as a whole, and harmful to people who find they are always being watched (often without even knowing it).