Thanks for the answeres, so I will wait for an UT-version for andro 6.x I will get an old nexus 5 to come into UT and test it.

What would also help, are good man pages, docs and online helps. My favorite SciFi author Stanislaw Lem said something like: Nobody reads anything, who reads does not understand it, and who understands will forget it (loosely cited). Nowadays I would add: Nobody writes any man pages.

@uzanto said in Librem 5: theoretically can run with any GNU/Linux System without anything about Android. I think we should be good from that point of view. Their quick facts says "Does not run Google Android" and "Does not run Apple iOS". The only thing to worry about is that it would not be able to take off due to insufficient funds.

@thepeter Thanks.

@Stefano Michael Hall no longer works at Canonical. He's joined Endless as communicty manager for the EndlessOS project.

Thanks All for the info. Having looked at everything I think for now I'll stick with what I've got until things settle down abit.

Does this mean that Ubuntu Core images could be relatively easily delivered to devices that support Halium? Could it potentially allow Ubuntu Touch to be moved onto Ubuntu Core as Canonical planned before they ditched it? In my opinion Ubuntu Core based system and snaps as a primary app distribution format for 16.04 or later at some point could be now discussed again, as it is definitely an argument worth evaluating. What's more, Ubuntu Core is going be treated with new series bianually (http://ubuntudesign.github.io/docs-demo/snappy-dev/ubuntu_core_desktop/), thus by the time Ubports is moved to 16.04 (as I guess there are still pretty much a few months to go) there will be Ubuntu Core series 18 at least in tests. Wouldn't moving onto Core unload quite a big chunk of work and code maintainance from Ubports then? By the way, to be not misleaded by the thread title: it's not that you will be able to install snap applications on your Android phone at some point - it's rather that Ubuntu Core will be able to be booted in a similar way to Android, thus potentially simplyfying delivery of Ubuntu Core image for a device that runs Android out of the box.

@Flohack Done.

https://copperhead.co/android/ it seems uber expensive to buy one of their pre installed Pixel phones, and it's also rather restrictive for application options. interesting approach though to hardening Android. It would be cool to have dual boot with UT to try out both. probably not going to be possible. Will Pixels be candidates for future UT porting?

@Gerd nice, great work!

@bq4.5 said in Push your vendor: about spying lol, man your government, your provider, anything that is connected to the net is spied on some how or the other, so just spare me the gibberish spy song. Want to stay safe from spying, just avoid internet. You are right. We live in a connected world. This is great and has a lot of opportunities but also threats. So unfortunately we have to get used to the fact that there is less native privacy from day to day BUT... ...it is also a question of the personal attitude. What I want to say is that on some point it has to start even if this start has not the immediate potential to safe the world. So if now we have the opportunity to develop an alternative mobile OS we should be carefully aware about those general conditions. At this point: A big THANK YOU to the UBports pioneers @mariogrip @NeoTheThird and Dalton Durst! (edited) And of course @Flohack... Maybe the following is going too far for this discussion but anyway let me write this thought: Out of a broader perspective I personally believe that privacy is one of the main preconditions for democratic and peaceful societies. Only if we as citizens have the possibility to discuss controversial topics without fearing to be blamed by the officials and elites because of not stating the "universal trouth" with every sentence, we get better and beeter in understanding the complex world. This is due to someone who can identify and articulate the mistakes in our statements again without fearing to be blamed. This personal understanding will than be the basis for our voting behaviour. So iteratively we - and so our systems - will get better and better.

@UniSuperBox perfect! Thank you.

I'm unsure of what benefit this gives us as opposed to a more accepted currency like USD or EUR.