@pparent very cool

I’d like to add my vote regarding the camera—it’s the main limitation for me. From what I understand, this isn’t something that can be fixed simply by creating a new camera app, as the issue seems to run through multiple levels of the system. As far as I recall, the core limitation is already present in Halium: shots take too long, not all features are exposed, higher resolutions can easily overexpose, and overall the photos look far worse compared to what Android delivers. Of course, this is likely a per-device issue, making a universal fix difficult. Still, there are numerous GCam tweaks available for different devices, and I wonder if a similar approach could be explored for Ubuntu Touch. Even the native AOSP camera tends to work more reliably, despite its own limitations. Running Waydroid alongside UT isn’t a viable solution either, as it consumes a lot of battery and the two environments don’t integrate well.

@Charly I have seen one post seeming to say that it was restored in the most bleeding edge version, I can't vouch for it as I use stable, however if you install crackle you can use nix immediately and you can get the nix version of rsync (more up-to-date than the Ubuntu 24.04 version). https://gitlab.com/tuxecure/crackle-apt/crackle https://gitlab.com/EricHeintzmann/ubuntu-touch/xiaomi-surya/-/wikis/Install-with-crackle Once you have crackle running, run 'crackle install rsync' and you are there

@moem @zakafx "Average user" and "Daily Driver" is a bit hard to define once we bring in apps. For my case, I'll just define it as can I use my phone as a phone with anticipating some app or web functionality. Similarly, I would also look at how easy is it to break the phone functionality or the OS. For me, if the phone actually worked, the Google Pixel 3a Ubuntu Touch would be 95% daily drivable for me. The camera would be the only other main issue. I define "daily driver" if I can use the phone for personal, work, and travel. I think this type of average user would be more aware of what life was like before smartphones or wants to detach from the current things whatever they may be. Maybe they just want something different too or are more developer focused? Ubuntu Touch meets most of these points. Now, if I'm a person who needs a lot of apps because I grew up with apps and that is my expectation and what I am used to, any Linux phone could potentially be a hardpass....unless it is a Steam machine or latest social media thing or something I guess. Not sure what is all popular these days. As for me, if the phone works, I know a number of people who may be interested in Ubuntu Touch. I may have to help them with general setup and how to use the phone to get what they need though. A number of the "main" apps people use have web-based ways to use them or have an alternative in the store, a way to use the app with Waydroid, etc. I think the smooth edges initiative could help with this. In time, we can expect more apps, etc. However, that does not mean it can't be daily driveable for an average user. It just might be those who have to wait a bit more till it can meet their needs. Those needs kind of depend on the person and how they satisfy those needs can happen in different ways. I can see both sides, and both sides are right. We just have to look at a target population first and then see where and how we can get population growth.

@domubpkm said in Merezhyvo browser: @naz.R said in Merezhyvo browser: So in practice: Sites still share cookies in the usual “per domain” way, But there is never a moment when two different tabs are actively running JavaScript in parallel, only the currently selected tab is alive and executing I understand (I think) what you're saying, but does this change anything about the action / effect of third-party cookies? Does this mean that even if they are there, they are asleep and have no negative spying action? no, it doesn't the third-party cookie blocker is going to be in the next release after the next one, I believe.

@pparent I have installed VLC in Waydroid and it works great so a native app would be awesome.

@ufoddos I have to wonder... are you using Ubuntu Touch?

@Lakotaubp I understand what your talking about in the dragon playground thats for sure! But its the only way I can have out going calls in coming always worked I just wished the guys (Developers) could somehow add what they did to VOLTE in 24 to the stable version or I wouldnt be in the dragons den persay LOL whatever though its running super right now in dragon land so I may just leae it till stable with volte support comes out I volte on the dragons den like I said there must be more involved to ad the fix to volte here to there I guess.Anyway thanks for chiming in on that I knew the dont wipe data cashe part but didnt know if you could just update to a stable release so thanks for that. As of now its running pretty good cant tell your in the dragons den yet there may be a bug somehwere yet to find I have added backdrop cusomized desktop got it looking really nice for the stable version thats for sure!

@kugiigi Thanks for posting your experience, did you post / find an issue on gitlab regarding it? I am interested in Ubuntu Touch development, so if I get the chance I'd like to work on that, because if something like that worked it would allow portable convergence, which is what I'm after.

@undrwater said in SOTY - Speech-To-Text Recognition on Ubuntu Touch: @idonthatevests I assume you're using LLM for STT. I'm doing that on my desktop in a python venv. No, I use small ASR models. Running LLM on an old mobile CPU for this task would likely make the speech recognition expensive and slow. And I think the same situation would be with attempts to use it for speech synthesis. So, using LLMs for that on mobile OS is probably possible, but only if you implement it for non time-critical tasks. Yet, in my opinion espeak-ng is still a fine option for that and is highly configurable. I'm still figuring my way around how UT is organized (I use gentoo, and it's quite different). There are many things in UT that are not organized yet, but that's what is great about UT for me, that you can do it yourself! Have fun with your research

@donieck Do you feel confortable to go in a terminal and launch top to look at which process is the cause of this? Perhaps it's an hardware problem ? You could flash back an Android ROM (the same used before installing UT) and see if the phone has a better behaviour.

@donieck Ho. And what's the values in in System settings / cellular / Provider and acces point name / Access point name / internet ? [image: 1764828582699-81241797-8922-44d6-ae68-6dcc0b7eaf57-image.png]

@Lakotaubp Confirmed

@ufoddos said in New mobile system solution to replace Android: Android is garbage. Android is filthy, stained with blood, and iOS isn't much better. Is this really necessary? If you want to vent and rage (flame & bash) then this is certainly not the place to do so imho. https://ubports.com/code-of-conduct

@Moem （Apple Push Notification Service，简称APNs）

@flohack ?

Solved by first updating to 20.04 OTA-11 and than upgrading to 24.04-1.1

@theprivacydad I guess you would have gotten a much better experience 6 months later: and that's an unfortunate coincidence that your testing/review happened just few days before some of the major needs (Signal, KeePass) were released to the Openstore , and some of the issues you mentioned is just about to be addressed: like modern and stable web-browsing. Anyway you will always be welcome to do an update or a new review in few month/years!