Interesting perspective. I am the team lead on Mir and recognise some of the history you report on. But I don't interpret them all as you do: Mir (display server): Canonical's alternative to Wayland. Pivoted to IoT. Wayland won. This conflates the Mir display server and the mirclient API. mirclient was used before Mir switched to Wayland. Support for Wayland was introduced in 2017 and mirclient was dropped in 2021. Wayland did win, but Mir didn't lose. C-02 | UBports Perpetuating the Pattern UBports did not create the architectural problems. They inherited them. But after 8 years, they have not resolved any of the fundamental ones: Halium: still on vendor EOL kernels Mir: still not standard Wayland-native Mir is Wayland-native (for at least 5 years) and the basis of several popular desktop Wayland compositors: Lomiri Miracle-WM Miriway Mir 2.x IS a Wayland compositor. Standard Wayland client apps DO run via XWayland. That misunderstands Xwayland - that allows X11 applications to run on a Wayland compositor, The mirclient protocol — the native app protocol for UT Click apps — is not standard Wayland. It is a Mir-specific extension. Miroil preserves it as a compatibility shim over Mir2. The Mir team lead proposed Miroil in 2021 as a low-priority project. In 2026 it is still not complete. Miroil is complete and has been in maintenance mode since 2021, It provides API compatibility for Lomiri to make migration from Mir 1.x to Mir 2.x easier. It is not related to mirclient in any way. Phosh's phoc uses wlroots. wlroots speaks native Wayland. GTK/Qt apps run natively. No containers. No compatibility shims. No mirclient. One protocol. Standard. To paraphrase: UBports Lomiri, Canonical's Ubuntu Frame, Matt's Miracle-WM, my Miriway and Budgie's Mirpie use Mir. Mir speaks native Wayland. GTK/Qt apps run natively. No compatibility shims. No mirclient. One protocol. Standard. Using containers is a OS choice, not a compositor choice.

Reporting back for future generations, I think I've found the issue. I was retracing my steps and found this: When installing postmarketOS there is a device specific instructionto run "fastboot oem uart enable" command. So I tried to run "fastboot oem uart disable" and then flash UT. So far working like a charm. Did a switch off, did a restart and all works as I'd expect it - also with Libertine set up.

but the expectation is to totally eliminate halium for all future devices ...but yeah just random inspiration

@AndroFree said: Habe versucht auf einen Xiaomi Note 9 Pro Ubuntu Touch zu installieren. Habt in einer dauert Schleife Rebooting Fastbootd und es funktioniert nur noch Fastboot Modus. Sonst geht nichts mehr. Kennt jemand eine Lösung? @AndroFree ....you need to downgrade to android 10

@pparent lol reminds me of a ancient proverb i just made up ....."isolation is good until one dies of loneliness" ...

@gpatel-fr Cheers! I'll stop by an electronics store tomorrow to get a proper cable that will be my dedicated flashing cable. Guess there is no need risking anything.

@TermuxnTR said: thank for your suggestion i will try it

@Kadafi how can your Screenshot folder be from the future?

@Kadafi Where are you located geographically? Does your ISP implement blocking of certain IP addresses?

I got one a new one this week and installed UT. Here are my current problems: Cannot install apps Cannot connect to BT4.x devices several bugs still going around Nevertheless, it is already a great sensation of freedom.

That page probably is not for what you expect. It is not really a membership registration page. You become a member of the community simply by interacting and participating. I think the page's purpose was to generate a list for a pool of volunteers and their skills in order to match them with project needs. But may I ask what you registered for? Maybe you can be pointed in the right direction to contribute by someone here.

@Eric-H Solved with latest update. Thank you

@malditobastardo That's great. How does one do that, please?

@oldbutndy im actually shaving like .....idk ..500 yaks? ...lol im slowing porting my entire pylinux software suite to UT with a few extras like this ....a aethersx2 ps2 emulator snes9x maybe retroarch if nobody did that one already? ....im gonna do alot of esp32 and meshtastic stuff ...i mean the sky is the limit ....health and money permitting

@Kadafi said: I have another problem: cannot install apps It's better to start a new topic for this, no one will know to expect this problem in a topic about the clock being off the screen.

@oldbutndy said: I thought sm-xcx was updating details on specific device pages They are. That means updating the already existing text, not adding new sentences.

@Kadafi said: using Ubuntu in a mobile phone is simply amazing! Word, sibling Glad to hear you're experiencing the freedom that UT brings! Tell your friends!

@pparent thanks a lot!