Posts made by dobey

@giemme Sorry, that's not quite what I meant. It doesn't matter if you can define custom categories or if they're preset. What I mean is, relationships between humans are more organic. To use the example in your mock-up graphic to make the point: I work with friends, and sometimes do other categorical things with those same people. If one sends me a message, there is no way for the phone to know if it's work related, friend related, or sport related, or perhaps something else entirely. So trying to group notifications into such categories will fail.

So it will always feel weird to try and split relationships categorically as such, when they are so organic. It seems like you're trying to solve a very specific problem that you might be having, but I don't think it scales well to general usage.

@3arn0wl That is because the installer code is checking something other than the snap store (which it really can't do easily), and the newer version is not packaged as a snap yet (for whatever reason). Otherwise you'd almost never see that message, as snapd already automatically updates packages in the background.

@marek_python I don't understand what you mean to do by wipe and re-install there. You can't select a user name during install either. The phone images only currently support a single user system, and that user is already created and in the rootfs.

I think there is no supported way to change the username, and changing it may break everything. I know people have tried changing the host name before, only to have lots of things break, because there are some pieces which depend on the host name not being changed. I think the same may be true for user name.

You could of course try to change it using the standard CLI tools to do so on Linux though. But beware everything might break and you might have to flash again to fix it. Also, as this configuration is part of the read-only root file system, any change in the username may be replaced with the original setting upon a system update.

I think I understand what you're trying to do with this idea, but I don't think it will work out well for most people. Similar things have been tried before in various systems, and they all have the same problem. Most of the people one interacts with are not finitely divisible into such categories, nor are the conversations or interactions with those people. And then there's the issue of getting apps on board. You'd need to define APIs that apps must use to be fit into such categories well, and that creates another reason for app developers to either not support the platform, or not integrate at that level, because it's not something that can be shared across other platforms.

As an experiment, on my Android phone (must use it for now), I have decided to remove all the icons from the "home" screen(s). I now have only phone and camera on the bottom bar, along with the "all apps" button.

So far, I am liking this. No icons/widgets blocking the wallpaper view, and forces me to be more mindful about use of the device.

@3arn0wl @Lakotaubp I don't the question is about changing the user name in the forum. :P

@asdf983lsdk39 You can't install either in libertine as a means of controlling network connectivity. Libertine is a container system, and simply inherits connectivity from the host system. Some level of system integration work would be required to let a confined app (which PIA could provide) to exert more control over the network connectivity, I think.

I'm still not sure what the app you speak of even does though, or requires. It's usable on traditional Linux systems on PCs because of the lack of confinement, and thus less security. I'm not sure if a confined app on UT could do the same thing using the APIs currently available (as I have not looked into what said app does or requires). But it will not be usable via libertine.

@advocatux Charge cycle management is how to extend battery life. Discharging down to 10-20% and only charging to 80-90%, depending on the specific battery specs, will optimize battery life span.

But that is completely unrelated to whether the hardware (and any software running on it), is using the battery optimally, or wasting it.

I don't think we need to discuss overall lifespan problems of Li-Ion batteries in this thread. It's pretty unrelated to whether UT has bugs affecting daily discharge rates.

@3arn0wl That's a poor assumption to make. It may be how you are using your device, but it is not how everyone uses the device.

Also, the new app drawer has search already. I think it's even focused by default, but not 100% sure on that. There are definitely focus issues with the new app drawer when using unity8 on a PC, though.

PIA supports OpenVPN connectivity, so you just need to configure the VPN under System Settings with the correct values for it. Or, I think you can possibly run the script provided by them at https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/installer/pia-nm.sh by downloading it to your device and running it in the terminal app, roughly as described at https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/helpdesk/guides/desktop/linux/fedora-openvpn-setup

@krille But why is the app drawer not "home" in this case? What defines "home" exactly? Something which covers your background with a bunch of icons, or other kinds of widgets, so you can no longer see the background art you've chosen?

To use the "home" analogy a bit more literally, wouldn't it be odd to be unable to know where your domicile is, unless you had a hundred different unique plants in the front yard as your only means to know what and where it is? So why do we need that on a computer? :P

@3arn0wl That's a very odd comparison to make. Personally, I don't know what iOS 1.0 was like, or why you think you're seeing it here. That just sounds like a denigrating comment for the sake of it, instead of discussing any actual problems or concerns. Let's not let fear of change dictate what we do with the system we've been given the opportunity to care for.

If we want to make things better, we need to discuss the real issues, and concerns, not just be afraid of losing some unnamed "thing" with the software. But this thread wasn't really about addressing specific concerns either. These week long threads are more about drive-by design sessions of one aspect of the UT experience. It seems people were pretty confused by what indicators even are, in this one. Which actually points to more issues with them.

But I think we shouldn't have a lengthy discussion about those issues, in this thread. Maybe a new thread, or in issues on github/gitlab, would be a better place to organize that.

@hummlbach The separation of apps by letters in the app drawer is somewhat unrelated to being sorted alphabetically. It should be pretty easy to get rid of the separation and condense down, while still keeping alphabetical sorting.

There were also plans to provide sorting options for "Most Often Used" and such, but the necessary APIs were not finished before Canonical dropped everything.

Other options could also be implemented in the app drawer, but I think we should in general not deviate from what makes unity8 what it is. Going to a traditional home screen setup that is basically a straight clone of Android, definitely takes away from that. Ironic, considering all the noise from people saying we should not get rid of scopes or change indicators, as core parts of the unity8 interface, because they are what make it "different/better."

@3arn0wl Sure. But "less is more" is also true. We don't need to stuff it with every possible thing for indicators to be better. You've got to cut all the fatty tissue out of a steak to get the best parts. No different with software. :)

@cibersheep said in Send Some: Indicators Love (week 3):

, I would say if you print a document, you have an app that prints and an indicator that tells you that a document is being printed.

Nope. There is no indicator for printing under unity8. There are only notifications for ink/toner low and such. The old print indicator was basically useless in success cases, so we did not implement it under unity8, but instead only have a daemon which notifies for error conditions.

@3arn0wl said in Send Some: Indicators Love (week 3):

Wouldn't it be cool to be able to have our most-used apps transform into indicators, so that they're there to just pull down.

Please no. We already had this problem of lines being blurred between apps and scopes. We definitely don't need apps sticking around in the top panel and pretending to be indicators either.

OK. I don't have one of these devices to test with, but if OpenVPN works (can you connect with an Ubuntu 16.04 laptop or such?), then it should be possible to connect from the phone. Assuming you can connect to the VPN using OpenVPN via Network Manager on a standard Ubuntu 16.04 PC, you should be able to connect from UT using the same method (I have done so to my own private OpenVPN server setup before).

It has nothing to do with pulse-audio. It is the hybris module for pulse-audio, which is maintained by the Sailfish (Jolla) developers. For this feature to work, that module must have the support. My suggestion would be to take your issue upstream to them.

@cibersheep said in Core Apps & Documentation Updates:

And now a moment to sing all along: Briaaaaan, Briaaaaaan, which make sound a little «viking» but with respect and joy :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkWjf9DhlnA