Posts made by arubislander

Hi @C0n57an71n Welcome aboard!

The SDK is no longer maintained. For information on App development you could start here: http://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/appdev/

I use VSCodium (Open Source version of VS Code) and Clickable. But other combinations with Clickable are also possible.

I have updated the first post with info about the Syncthing snap package, available for those who want to sync with/to an amd64 machine.

@dobey

I stand corrected . Thank you for clarifying.

@pault said in List of bugs I've encountered...:

I could have sworn I heard on one of the recent UBPorts Q&A podcasts that they were in fact planning to eventually rebase to Debian in the future and unhook as much as possible from the Android base. I could be wrong, but it was a mention that caught my attention, to the point I skipped back to listen more closely a second time.

Ah, you are probably referring to getting Lomiri (formerly Unity8) which is the UI shell that Ubuntu Touch uses, packaged in Debian. This is an ongoing project, but will not impact the base of Ubuntu Touch being Ubuntu. What it will achieve is that for the packages that get included in Debian, these will (probably) also be included in upstream Ubuntu. This frees up the resources that are now tied up in hosting and maintaining the packages specifically for Ubuntu Touch.

Hi @pault,

Thank you for taking the time to list the bugs you found and the things that could be improved. They help advance the project.

@negations beat me to pointing you to the issue tracker. But there are a few other things I would like to mention.

@pault said in List of bugs I've encountered...:

7. This may not fall under the UT umbrella, but Dekko is a bit of a trainwreck.

Please be more sensitive when expressing your opinion on a piece of software. How would you feel if I were to describe your carefully composed post as a 'trainwreck'?
Dekko is a complicated piece of software that members of the community have gathered around to maintain, improve and expand after the original author was no longer able to do so.
Some (if not all) of the issues you experience using Dekko are due to systemic issues that need to be solved in Ubuntu Touch on the PinePhone. Multi screen applications loose responsiveness when the main screen looses focus. This is a known issue and is being / will be worked on.

@pault said in List of bugs I've encountered...:

especially when it is rebased to Debian and more common Linux apps are more easily accessible.

There are no plans to rebase Ubuntu Touch on Debian. Maybe you are thinking of Mobian, which is another distribution that can be run on the PinePhone. There are plans however to rebase Ubuntu Touch on Ubuntu 20.04.
How this will affect usability of 'common Linux apps' still needs to be determined. But my expectation is that nothing fundamental will have changed compared to now. The root filesystem will still be read-only, and using apt will still be discouraged. The recommended way to install 'common Linux apps' will still be using a Libertine container. It might be possible that more container types (lxd) will become supported, but we will have to wait and see.

A new version (1.7.0) of Syncthing has been uploaded to the Open Store. This release follows the upstream release. See here for the release notes.

@jojuma You can also take a look at this blog post. It is a bit old, but still relevant. Scroll down to the bottom to get right into it.

@zzarr Ubuntu Touch is not primarily aimed at running X11 applications. Some might work under Libertine, but that is only if Libertine is supported for your device. And even then the feature is more of a preview than a finished product.

You are effectively asking if a device that is currently not supported, will run well enough when Ubuntu Touch is ported to it. The answer is: no one can know unless and until a port is attempted.

If you really want to buy that device, buy it for what runs on it now. If you really want to run Ubuntu Touch try to find a currently supported device that meets your needs.

Of course if you want to buy the device with the aim or porting Ubuntu Touch to it, then by all means do, but then again, you will only know what works once the port is attempted.

If you are talking about the snap, it is misidentified in the snap store.
When the uploader does not choose a license (i.e. leaves the selection blank) it shows as proprietary.

Also be sure you place your SD card in the correct slot. It is the top one. I had to find that out the hard way after putting it in the bottom slot and not having the phone boot from the card.

That is correct, that button is currently missing.

What exactly are you looking to achieve that you feel you need developer mode for?

@tigerpro said in create boot.img only:

@Duhjoker what device?

LG Aristo 2

@Duhjoker, I am sorry you had such an experience on Telegram. I am not in the Halium group myself, but I had the impression they were a helpful lot.
I have zero experience porting, so I am afraid I cannot help you myself but let me see if I can get someones attention who might...

@TartanSpartan said in Concerning Libertine and it's status within the Ubuntu Touch OS:

I think there's value to be had from being able to use spreadsheets on the go, or to design a presentation, or to write up a nice document with a word processor (show me any UT native app for word processing which comes close to the functionality of Libre Office Writer). Clearly UBports would agree, given the pitch for the M10 FHD as "This tablet provides you a great workflow as a portable laptop. Imagine travelling by plane and working on your documents using LibreOffice.". and also it's "The tablet to travel with". That's still up there on the link I cited above.

I do not contest that many in the Foundation will agree that Libertine adds value. I do feel however that too much weight is placed on pronouncements in the device descriptions. The description for the tablet sounds more like 'marketing speech' that has been retained from the Canonical days to me. I don't object to it, but I don't see in it any promise of perpetual support either.

Concerning Libertine, the hope was that by highlighting its availability there would have been community members willing and able to step up and contribute bug fixes and features to the code. Unfortunately that does not seem to have happened to the degree that would have made an impact. After the switch to Wayland we might have another opportunity to see this hope realized.

I also think that pronouncements in Q&A's or on Social Media regarding Libertine should not be taken as hard promises at this time, but more as declared intents based on best effort. Until such a time as a team can be formed around the maintenance of Libertine, similar to what has happened for Dekko2 and is now coalescing around Podbird, I don't see how much progress can be made.

@Duhjoker, Have you tried contacting the halium developer community on IRC, Matrix or Telegram as mentioned in the Get Help section of the First Steps Halium page? The people who can help you are more active there than on this forum.

@yarai said in UBports as the OS of a note-taking tablet?:

@arubislander The thing is that I want to write in it as if it was a notebook. That's the kind of notes that I'm talking about. I already have a laptop, so all I'm looking forward to is a relatively cheap tablet that I can use for this function alone.

Ah, I should have looked into what kind of app Xournal was before chiming in. I went ahead and installed it on my M10 FHD to see how it would work. I used my finger because I couldn't find any of my styluses. I have two of those rubber tipped ones, not very high quality, more designed for tapping than for drawing, so I don't think the experience would have been too different if I had used one of them.

I noticed two things that worked differently.

1. The first was importing images. The dialog that appears after clicking on the icon is too wide for the screen. The filesystem cannot be navigated and the dialogue cannot be dismissed with either a confirmation or a cancelation, because all the relevant controls are offscreen.
2. When selecting another drawing tool I needed to tap outside the toolbar before starting to draw on the page. Failing to do so would result in a straight line drawn from the direction of the toolbar icon to the first point of contact on the page.

Other than that, if a precise enough capacitive touch stylus exists, then it could be quite usable. But I don't know if such a products is available.

Also, for comfortable note taking I would suggest an external keyboard. The on screen keyboard is good for short messages, but becomes a challenge when typing longer prose.
But then I wonder if a Pinebook Pro would not be a better fit for your use case?

In hindsight it would have been better if Purism had partnered with a hardware company like Pine64 to make the phone. There are people who said so early on.
They did good concerning the software, it's open source and upstreamed for the most part. That is why we can see Phosh coming to the PinePhone too. I think the PinePhone will contribute more to the popularity of Phosh than the Librem5

I guess no one is working on it, so rather than leave it in to languish and lag behind the rest the choice was made to remove it.
Last I heard none of the devices promised to the devs by Purism ever materialized. And with the totally outlandish price point (in my opinion) purchasing one just to port would seem out of the question.

There is lots to unpack in your post. And I am very ambivalent in positively advocating using an out of support OS for a device connected to the internet.

But the only thing I will mention is that if someone purchasing a PineTab would want to use desktop applications on it, they could, in the short term, be better off installing one of several desktop Linux distro's available for the platform. Maybe even dual booting with UTouch.