And added a new part "rebirth" (La renaissance), as the last one "The fall" (Le déclin), could make readers think uTouch is dead.
What do you think about it (French and others).
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Touch#La_renaissance
Feel free to tell, if i wrote mistakes, or forgot something (and i probably did).
Feel free to try translate lol : https://www.deepl.com/home
@dalharmony said in Android Apps Is A NonStarter:
I don't see how Ubuntu Touch will ever become more than a curiosity without being able to run them.
That's a bit odd to say that. It's like saying "i don't see how GNU/Linux desktop OS will ever become more than a curiosity without being able to run Windows programms"...
You don't choose GNUL to run windows apps or reject it because it can't, you choose it to free yourself from microsoft or apple. Same is UT with google or apple.
@nero355 said in Life with BQ4.5 after 20.04:
Well, I thought the following would be possible :
Keep using the 16.04 LTS release without OS updates/upgrades.
Keep using the apps that will still work with the 16.04 LTS as long as they do...Basically what I am doing with my current Android based ZUK Z2 Pro phone
That's what i'm going to do, as i also did after canonical drop.
I stayed 2 years with their last OTA using Open Store.
This time i hope by there Pinephone(s) will be full working devices, i'd really prefer open source hardware so no more vendor obsolescence.
Little update :
I managed to find some icons with transparancy (this way you can change background colors @domubpkm 
) in /usr/share/icons, i used thoses from suru/apps/scalable, i let them grey for the moment, but color can be changed with Gimp for instance...
I also managed to find some additional URLdispatcher compatible apps, wich are dialer app, openstore app, uTouch settings, contact app.
To add one of them, add an internet widget, and go to "Link URL" field, erase it, and add instead (edited since new findings) :
document:// for launching document viewer
dekko:// for Dekko mail app, or mailto://xxx@xxx.xxx for opening new mail form to setted address
addressbook:// for contacts
openstore:// for openstore
settings:// for uTouch settings
dialer:// for opening dialer, or tel://01.02.03.04.05 for opening dialer with number pre-composed, each number need to be separated by one dot (in this example, it's a french number pattern), "tel" with no number do the same as "dialer".
message:// also exists for opening messaging app, but it opens it with form to create new message, i did not find a way to open it the same as if you open it from drawer/launcher, but if you add contact name or contact number after it + a third / it will open the contact thread (thanks @domubpkm for the finding) : message:///01.02.03.04.05
https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/device/arale/
"This device currently offers minimal features, most of the smart functionalities might not work yet. It can be a very nice second device."
I run UT on MX4 from its launch by canonical and it's a perfectly fonctionnal phone.
Only battery percentage is bugging, but as i understood it was also the case under android.
I know very few if not no one will get a MX4 now, but its device page is wrong, please correct it.
I was searching gitlab for work in progress on Fairphone 5 and found out there is a new Volla incoming, named Volla Phone Quintus !
https://www.vollaquintus.com/
No clear release date, but UT port is already in progress.
https://gitlab.com/ubports/porting/community-ports/android12/volla-phone-quintus
Just for info ^^
@kingu said in I am about to give up and leave:
You understand you are not a good user
That's what you "understand", and you're wrong.
Someone using UT for almost 10 years as daily driver would not do a thread like that without being disappointed.
Some decisions, like making morph the only webrowser, and part of the system and in consequence not updatable independently, could not end anything different that the situation we encounter now.
This is a very important thing on a smartphone, being able to browse the web.
And his "grief" on Volla can be heard, they sell the only smartphones preinstalled with UT on it, which make them the first choice for "noobs" that fear flashing devices, and those devices are not 100% working, even the very first one, under UT.
Maybe Volla should focus on that and not on doing things like dual boot (keeping it for themselves... viva open source..), and selling new devices like Quintus, when the older ones are still not 100% fonctionnal.
@bocephus
Stop being offensive right now please.
You have your thinking about what should be a GNU/Linux user, ok, well, that's your right.
Now being aggressive on other users just because they think different is not in the ubports community code of conduct.
You have twitter or facebook to do that...
@Lakotaubp said in Volla Phone X23 about to ship:
hard/ tough discussions carried out in a polite manner with respect and tolerance for the other persons views are fine
This.
If you insist calling name and cursing community members, we'll have to pull hammer out...
Here is not a jugement for what you are saying about Hallo Welt way to sell their rebadged gigaset with "only" software work on indiegogo diferently than on their online shop, but the way you say and argue it, and call name members that don't agree with you.
You're not on twitter or reddit here !
You don't need to be so aggressive... 
People here don't earn billions to do what they do, like GAFA do.
They earn nothing, and their only reward is optional donations and user using their work.
If you think some things could be better, tell, gently, sure you could even participate to make it better, it's a community work after all...
Now if you need help, ask, gently, and be patient for answer.
Have you even thought your problem could be hardware issue, sim connectors or sim port connectors, have you tried cleaning it?
@bforpc said in runnig a webserver - no chance:
If ubports should be more then a system for nerds and some special interest groups, then it should have more than the other 2 OS'es.
Before anything else, uTouch is a phone targeted os for people, any kind, that wish to get rid of gafam.
All those people need, 90% i'd say, is reliable basic smarphone features first, and if possible when such is done, reliable advanced smartphone features.
Right now there is lot to do for few devs, so just take on you and wait.
You can't ask ten devs or so, to achieve the same work that hundred of thousand do for the other 2 OS'es in the same time.
@stanwood said in Open Ubuntu Touch to all Android applications !:
In the future, the kernel will be gradually extended to other Halium 9 and 10 devices.
Next step after this one, open all UBports supported devices to all Android applications ?
@hekathegreat
Yes UT is a "full" GNU/Linux on the OS part, but a secure mobile oriented one, so you can't install snap ou deb packages in its default state.
On android phones, it runs on some android parts, most of them are vendor drivers, and it needs to use vendor Linux custom kernel to make phone work properly, but nothing from what you do on UT is shared with google (unless you want to, i.e. by using a google account) or any other entity.
Default installed apps have nothing to do with google, contact, messaging, phoning apps, and all the others are from ubports and opensourced and of course ubports doesn't collect your personnal data.
On openstore (wich only require account if you want to review apps) it's the same, only specific apps that has to do with google or youtube account can share some data with google.
Apps on UT are strictly confined, except core apps and some other, reviewed by ubports team.
Search "halium" and HAL (hardware abstraction layer) to better understand how UT works on android native phones.
https://twitter.com/hello_volla/status/1258027338526330882
New step in next gen UBports phones!
Not everyone lives in USA... So coro... euuuu 3G or Volte "apocalypse" is not an issue for all.
Here in France, 3G or Voice LTE (4G) is living a good life for still long.
Wanted to say that because your topic seems unclear on that.
You should modify title "USA : The Coming 3G Voice Apocalypse"
@pipdickens said in Financing for Ubuntu Touch development, via tokens:
The tokens could have a function in the future such as early access to new apps or new OS functionalities.
Or voting rights to decide which phones will be supported in the future.
Wow, don't take it for you or like an attack, but... What a terrible idea !
I HATE all kind of paywall, even if the wall is non permanent.
What i think is if someone wants UT to live, he will donate, and will only take a good and healthy community made mobile OS as a reward.
If he wants more, he can go buy a UBP fundation tee-shirt or mug.
As for voting for the next ported phone, why only those who have enough money to buy one token, should have the righ to vote ?
It only reminds me when, in my country, only rich white males had the right to do so...
@domubpkm said in [HowTo] Alternate way of saving battery when using 4G/LTE:
Does it mean that the main purpose of the work is that MMS could be received normally with cellular data OFF ?
No the purpose is to not loose MMS in any cases and being able to download them when data is back on.
You can't receive MMS without data on, no software tweak can change this.
See there if not already done for full story : https://forums.ubports.com/topic/5100/the-mms-lost-story
@nero355
I'm french and didn't know what PF means.
We don't use those cards in France lol.
That said, happy new year everyone, with or without PF 
